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		<title>By: juslo</title>
		<link>http://broadsidemalaysia.wordpress.com/2007/09/24/waiting-for-a-judicial-break/#comment-64</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Jonah,

i&#039;ve said this when the news first broke, at:
Dirty filthy ‘justice’ September 19, 2007
http://elizabethwong.wordpress.com/2007/09/19/dirty-justice/#comment-20595
what do u think?
(waiting for your &#039;break&#039;...)


5. juslo - September 20, 2007 

hang on a minute, people… we still cant jump to conclusions on the following critical facts:

1. that the lawyer was vk lingam.
only those who know him well would b able to confirm that identity, but i guess it’s pretty obvious, he cant run away with that.

2. that the phone conversation was a ‘real’ one.
mr vk said he was doing things ‘not for our self-interest, but for the country’, so there’s nothing to stop him from doing a ’self-sacrifice for the country’ again, by coming out to say that actually, people, i was just practising reading the lines of a ’satire play’ to entertain guests in tun dzaiddin’s birthday bash that year… or i was just talking to myself!! 

yes, i could b a lunatic sometimes. but call me whatever name u want, i CATEGORICALLY DENY that the person on the other line was ahmad fairuz, or ANY judge for that matter!!

blow meh?!?!

so, we cant really jump to conclusion that ahmad fairuz was ‘implicated’, n then call for judicial reform, revamp, revolution this n that, based on this video clip.

BUT i know of a way to to get the chief justice to step down - TRUTH OR DARE.

pkr should come out n say that “for your info (ahmad fairuz please pay special attention!!), we HAVE ANOTHER CLIP/audio recording of the person talking ON THE OTHER SIDE of the phone call… so, u better resign NOW!!” 

then, the chief justice would have to seriously consider resigning ‘on health reasons’ immediately, bcos he would have no way of confirming whether someone had managed to film him on the other end, more than 5 years ago… (hell, he might not even remember where da (deleted) he was during that conversation!!)

or, he’ll play DARE - take a final gamble, betting that no such video/audio for ‘the other side’ exists. bcos IF indeed it exists, he’ll still have to resign n face the SAME charges n music LATER, ANYWAY - so why do it NOW??? wait n see lar…

so, people, don’t get over excited just yet, like the bar council, (who has issued a statement jumping to many conclusions, impliedly. i think they’ll get into HELL LOT OF PROBLEMS if they go on to make any statement making more accusatory assumptions. we might end up having the whole bar council hauled up before the court for contempt!!! n wouldn’t that b a PERFECT PRETEXT for getting rid of u common-law-out-of-your-mind-kafirs, or at least to abolish the bar council altogether??) 

WATCH YOUR MOUTHS, people. u all should realise that EVEN IF this was true (i think it was), the government n the agong would NOT want to admit that such scandals really took place. they would do everything to downplay/eradicate ANY trace of wrongdoing if possible, so that they can protect the image (however despised by now) of the malaysian judiciary. they would prefer to let the chief justice go ‘quietly’ into his ‘retirement’, instead of having to take the drastic n shameful step of firing him, the great Champion of syariah-law-replacing-common-law.

hehe…. god bless u, tun!! (n your family - i mean, your ‘brothers’ in-law (those u have appointed to the benches… of your dinner table)!!!

;P

---------------------------------

but the bar council n various NGO&#039;s have issued statements calling for &#039;royal commission&#039;, &#039;impeachment tribunals&#039; etc etc, which to me is, at least impliedly, making assumptions about the identity of the other person on the other side.

will this b a &#039;trap&#039;??
bcos frankly, for the power-that-be (including the Agong) to allow this thing to blow up is going to have far reaching consequences, so they&#039;ll try to cover it up as much as they could, while &#039;penalizing&#039; the people invovled &#039;behind closed doors&#039; (such as early retirement).

i doubt we&#039;ll see this developing into a full-blown investigation/inquiry to hold the relevant &#039;participants&#039; to account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Jonah,</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve said this when the news first broke, at:<br />
Dirty filthy ‘justice’ September 19, 2007<br />
<a href="http://elizabethwong.wordpress.com/2007/09/19/dirty-justice/#comment-20595" rel="nofollow">http://elizabethwong.wordpress.com/2007/09/19/dirty-justice/#comment-20595</a><br />
what do u think?<br />
(waiting for your &#8216;break&#8217;&#8230;)</p>
<p>5. juslo &#8211; September 20, 2007 </p>
<p>hang on a minute, people… we still cant jump to conclusions on the following critical facts:</p>
<p>1. that the lawyer was vk lingam.<br />
only those who know him well would b able to confirm that identity, but i guess it’s pretty obvious, he cant run away with that.</p>
<p>2. that the phone conversation was a ‘real’ one.<br />
mr vk said he was doing things ‘not for our self-interest, but for the country’, so there’s nothing to stop him from doing a ’self-sacrifice for the country’ again, by coming out to say that actually, people, i was just practising reading the lines of a ’satire play’ to entertain guests in tun dzaiddin’s birthday bash that year… or i was just talking to myself!! </p>
<p>yes, i could b a lunatic sometimes. but call me whatever name u want, i CATEGORICALLY DENY that the person on the other line was ahmad fairuz, or ANY judge for that matter!!</p>
<p>blow meh?!?!</p>
<p>so, we cant really jump to conclusion that ahmad fairuz was ‘implicated’, n then call for judicial reform, revamp, revolution this n that, based on this video clip.</p>
<p>BUT i know of a way to to get the chief justice to step down &#8211; TRUTH OR DARE.</p>
<p>pkr should come out n say that “for your info (ahmad fairuz please pay special attention!!), we HAVE ANOTHER CLIP/audio recording of the person talking ON THE OTHER SIDE of the phone call… so, u better resign NOW!!” </p>
<p>then, the chief justice would have to seriously consider resigning ‘on health reasons’ immediately, bcos he would have no way of confirming whether someone had managed to film him on the other end, more than 5 years ago… (hell, he might not even remember where da (deleted) he was during that conversation!!)</p>
<p>or, he’ll play DARE &#8211; take a final gamble, betting that no such video/audio for ‘the other side’ exists. bcos IF indeed it exists, he’ll still have to resign n face the SAME charges n music LATER, ANYWAY &#8211; so why do it NOW??? wait n see lar…</p>
<p>so, people, don’t get over excited just yet, like the bar council, (who has issued a statement jumping to many conclusions, impliedly. i think they’ll get into HELL LOT OF PROBLEMS if they go on to make any statement making more accusatory assumptions. we might end up having the whole bar council hauled up before the court for contempt!!! n wouldn’t that b a PERFECT PRETEXT for getting rid of u common-law-out-of-your-mind-kafirs, or at least to abolish the bar council altogether??) </p>
<p>WATCH YOUR MOUTHS, people. u all should realise that EVEN IF this was true (i think it was), the government n the agong would NOT want to admit that such scandals really took place. they would do everything to downplay/eradicate ANY trace of wrongdoing if possible, so that they can protect the image (however despised by now) of the malaysian judiciary. they would prefer to let the chief justice go ‘quietly’ into his ‘retirement’, instead of having to take the drastic n shameful step of firing him, the great Champion of syariah-law-replacing-common-law.</p>
<p>hehe…. god bless u, tun!! (n your family &#8211; i mean, your ‘brothers’ in-law (those u have appointed to the benches… of your dinner table)!!!</p>
<p>;P</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>but the bar council n various NGO&#8217;s have issued statements calling for &#8216;royal commission&#8217;, &#8216;impeachment tribunals&#8217; etc etc, which to me is, at least impliedly, making assumptions about the identity of the other person on the other side.</p>
<p>will this b a &#8216;trap&#8217;??<br />
bcos frankly, for the power-that-be (including the Agong) to allow this thing to blow up is going to have far reaching consequences, so they&#8217;ll try to cover it up as much as they could, while &#8216;penalizing&#8217; the people invovled &#8216;behind closed doors&#8217; (such as early retirement).</p>
<p>i doubt we&#8217;ll see this developing into a full-blown investigation/inquiry to hold the relevant &#8216;participants&#8217; to account.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except for Malaysiakini, none of the other Malaysian news media mentioned Ahmad Fairuz by name. Perhaps Malaysiakini has a video or audio recording of Nazri saying that Ahmad Fairuz has denied that the person Lingam was talking to in the video clip is him? 

Even opposition leader Mr Lim Kit Siang says that &quot;there is no proof that Ahmad Fairuz had actually denied that he was the person Lingam was talking to in the Lingam Tape...&quot; http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/24/lingam-tape-credibility-of-fairuzs-denial-through-nazri-zero-like-earlier-case-on-abolition-of-common-law/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except for Malaysiakini, none of the other Malaysian news media mentioned Ahmad Fairuz by name. Perhaps Malaysiakini has a video or audio recording of Nazri saying that Ahmad Fairuz has denied that the person Lingam was talking to in the video clip is him? </p>
<p>Even opposition leader Mr Lim Kit Siang says that &#8220;there is no proof that Ahmad Fairuz had actually denied that he was the person Lingam was talking to in the Lingam Tape&#8230;&#8221; <a href="http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/24/lingam-tape-credibility-of-fairuzs-denial-through-nazri-zero-like-earlier-case-on-abolition-of-common-law/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/24/lingam-tape-credibility-of-fairuzs-denial-through-nazri-zero-like-earlier-case-on-abolition-of-common-law/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Antares</title>
		<link>http://broadsidemalaysia.wordpress.com/2007/09/24/waiting-for-a-judicial-break/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Antares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahmad Fairuz, according to today&#039;s headlines, has denied that it was him at the other end of V.K. Lingam&#039;s telephone call. We await your next broadside with glee! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahmad Fairuz, according to today&#8217;s headlines, has denied that it was him at the other end of V.K. Lingam&#8217;s telephone call. We await your next broadside with glee! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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